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Issue #806#Books

Seven books I keep close because I love them

TL;DR

Mark Dominus walks through the seven books he keeps within reach of his desk. They are a 4th-edition Roget's Thesaurus, Thomas Browne's prose, the Decameron, From Frege to Gödel, Orbis Pictus, an NIV Bible and the Belles Heures. For each he explains why he keeps it close and what it has fed into his writing.

The article

  • Roget's Thesaurus is a classification of ideas into about a thousand sections, not a list of synonyms. Leafing through neighbouring sections like Priority, Posteriority and Simultaneity helps a writer find what they meant to say. That only works if the writer already knows what the words mean.
  • He kept the 4th edition over the fatter 8th because the extra material wasn't anything he needed. He also prefers it to a more convenient online version.
  • Thomas Browne's Pseudodoxia Epidemica, from 1646, catalogues popular beliefs Browne thought were wrong. Dominus reads Browne as the Renaissance's brave curiosity, set against medieval thought he finds frightened and cramped.
  • The Decameron was written soon after the 1348 plague, only decades after Dante. It is about people eating, arguing and making love, while God stays in the background. He keeps the Ó Cuilleanáin translation. He compares its word choices with older translations.
  • From Frege to Gödel collects the founding papers of mathematical logic. They include Frege's Begriffsschrift, Russell's letter breaking Frege's system, Peano's axioms and Ackermann's function. He uses it as a reference and also just browses it.
  • Orbis Pictus, from 1658, was the first illustrated children's book published in Europe. It pairs numbered engravings with facing English and Latin text. The NIV Bible is there because, he says, nobody can understand 21st-century America without the Bible. He prints his unfinished notes on Samson lying to Delilah over and over.

Why it matters

Read the original for the asides the summary drops. They include how Roget's index splits the senses of "immediate", Browne on four-eyed snails, and the abbess with her lover's trousers on her head. It also has a dozen links into twenty years of Dominus's blog. The post is personal and digressive, and that is most of its appeal.

The discussion

Most commenters liked the post, but the thread spent most of its energy on the Bible, one book of the seven. People argued over the NIV, Samson's last words, the Samson story and the "cornerstone of Western culture" claim. Dominus, posting as mjd, joined in often to answer questions about editions and list non-Western books on his other shelves.

The NIV and other translations

The top thread attacked the NIV as theologically slanted, citing its "sinful nature" for sarx in Romans 7:18 instead of "flesh". Others recommended the NRSV for scholarship, the NLT for readability and the ESV for how evangelicals read today. The KJV won praise for its language, though its words have shifted meaning since 1611. A minority defended Dominus's choice because the NIV still outsells other English versions, which suits his goal of understanding America.

The NIV has so many inexcusable translations that reinforce a theological worldview that matched the conversation on atonement and justification that was happening in the 90s and 2000s.

— @ntdef

It is still the most popular English-language version according to https://christianbookexpo.com/bestseller/translations.php?id=BO23, so for his goal ("there is no way to understand 21st-century America without understanding the Bible") I think it's the right choice.

— @burkaman

Samson's last words and reading the original

Several people worked through the Hebrew, Greek and Latin of Samson's last line, which translations rarely render literally. They agreed it reads closer to "let my soul die with the Philistines", with nephesh nearer "life" or "self". A Hebrew reader's claim that translations lose a great deal drew a sharp reply asking why they knew better than the NIV committee. Others answered that all translation loses something, and translators admit it.

The original Hebrew has

תָּמוֹת נַפְשִׁי עִם-פְּלִשְׁתִּים

which is *also* third person "may *my soul*" (נַפְשִׁי) "die with (the) Philistines".

— @schoen

Translations are inherently lossy, especially for cases like the bible that use less common dialects and have conflicting source versions.

— @rurp

Is Samson a fool, or is the reading shallow?

Dominus mocks Samson for lying to Delilah again and again while knowing she will betray him. Defenders said the text never shows Samson knows the Philistines are waiting, or read him as blinded by lust or longing for love. An atheist countered that this charitable reading assumes the text must be deep because it is sacred. A believer answered that its authors thought it sacred, so taking that seriously is part of reading it well.

It is not clear from the text that Samson is aware of the presence of Philistines the first three times. We are told they are lying in ambush in an inner chamber.

— @cvoss

Samson is blinded by sex. He's recorded multiple times going outside of his community, even to enemy territory, to seek out attractive women and prostitutes.

— @judah

"Cornerstone of Western culture"

Several commenters objected to Dominus's claim that no well-educated person can be without knowing the Bible. One said Greek philosophy and Indian, Chinese and Islamic thought are the real foundation. An atheist said to read the anti-colonial history Settlers instead, which set off a long, off-topic quarrel about whether life in the US is good. Another commenter mocked the gatekeeping by demanding that readers also know Canaanite cults and Zoroastrianism, then admitted the bit. Most replies still granted that the Bible shaped Western culture, for better or worse.

My convictions are pretty hollow because I'm demonstrating the pointlessness--or arbitrariness, if you like--of gatekeeping the ranks of the "well-educated," as the author tries to do here.

— @vehemenz

The fact you used "cornerstone" like this somewhat undermines your point, since its figurative use originated from the Bible.

— @magarnicle

Roget's and the rest of the shelf

Many readers learned for the first time that Roget's is arranged by concept, and asked which edition to buy. Dominus pointed them to Harper versions, since in the US anyone can call a thesaurus "Roget's". The developer of OneLook said its concept clusters come straight from Roget. Others traded memories of the Decameron, Orbis Pictus and paper dictionaries. Asked for non-Western books, Dominus listed some from his other shelves, such as the Egyptian Book of the Dead and Ibn Battutah's travels.

The concept clusters on the site are directly inspired by Roget's work. Like the author, I see a thesaurus less as a synonym dictionary and more as what the word literally means, a storehouse of treasure.

— @dougb5

I think some people might see my reading habits as those of a dilettante with a lack of serious focus, and I don't think I would care to dispute that.

— @mjd

Consensus

The post is a pleasure to read, and Roget's is far more useful once you know it is organized by idea. On the Bible, most agreed that translation choice matters a great deal and that the KJV's archaic words now mislead readers.

Dissent

A sizeable group rejected the claim that the Bible is the cornerstone of Western culture or required reading for the well-educated. Others questioned the NIV in particular. A few objected to Dominus's dismissal of medieval thinkers, blaming Aristotle for the cramped science or calling Scotus and Aquinas fascinating.